@wakame @futurebird , yes, I do talk to Krobus too.
On Fridays.
We are Silent Duo for life!
Kroubus is the best.
I'm now thinking about how being able to choose NOT to do something can be an important part of the fun of a game. Could one design a game that really leans in to the joy of being introverted?
I think this is one of the fun things about stardew. It's a dating sim... but you can just ignore all of that and NOT do it. Delightful!
"If I give $PERSON a $THING for 20 weeks, they will eventually love me."
This is not extraversion, this is buying love with money.
The problem with the kind of dude who thinks "give woman $$gift five times: she must like me now" is mostly down to entitlement... but, also they don't bother to find out what the correct gift is.
It's not the value. It's taking the time to learn about the other *person* who *is* a person, not a vending machine.
If these dudes gave better gifts their plan might even work. (and in the course of executing the plan they might make a human connection which is the point)
I remember having a very intense argument with a guy 'friend' in college about this topic. He was convinced from the "expert dating advice" that 'females' care about the *value* of gifts specifically and all my efforts to convince him that he'd do better if he spent more time finding the exact right gift (or thing to do, or even joke) were just some kind of propaganda put out by women to IDK conceal how things really work I guess?
Wonder how things worked out for him?
Problem is, there are women (people of every gender) who care about the value of gifts, who look at relationships in that transactional way and through no other perspectives. I couldn't convince this guy he was embarking on a life where these would be the only kind of women he'd meet.
But, then, he *was* also the guy who said my advice about women didn't count because I was "basically a man because you know too much math"
CMU was kind of a toxic place looking back.
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Apropos of this thread, the book "Platonic" by Marisa G. Franco was illuminating, for me.